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Re: Ivan Grouch is a package deal

by LK <Patism66@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Aug 14, 2008 at 08:20 PM

On Aug 14, 7:00=A0pm, Kent Wills <compu...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 12:18:12 -0700 (PDT), Greegor
>
> <Greego...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >IG > You've demonstrated conclusively that I am
> >IG > a Usenet veteran whose interests range from
> >IG > violence-free child-rearing to religion, politics,
> >IG > abortion, current events and a host of other topics.
>
> >Ivan thinks that being an INTERNET
> >a-hole on many subjects makes him
> >a well rounded individual? =A0LOL
>
> =A0 =A0 Since you have cornered the market on domestic violence and
child
> abuse, he had to pick something.
>
>
>
> >And if Ivan already raised three kids
> >then WHY would he be so damned
> >interested in "violence free child rearing"??
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0Just a guess on my part, but it's possible the method worked
w=
ell
> for him, and he would like to see others use it.

It's possible I suppose, but his immature way of doing things suggests
alternate motivations.

Notice how Spanky doesn't even try to intellectualize the argument in
any way.  He states his case, provides some feminist bull**** to go
along with it, then goes straight for the insult and the accusation of
***ual deviancy against anybody who argues for or against his
position.  He's probably using one of them random insult generators.
(google it if you need to know) No need to prove anything he says and
no attempt to convince anybody else of his position.  Just be an
asshole and call it good.

All he wants to do is fight about it.  He'd probably fight about it
with people who agree with him all the way.

> =A0 =A0 =A0I don't see it as a realistic goal, if that is his goal, but
h=
e's
> not doing any harm by trying.
>
>
>
> >LK > It almost seems like you're sticking up for Greg there Ron.
>
> >Ron > Sick, aint it. =A0"even a broken clock is right twice a day".
>
> >Damn, Coming from Ron, that's high praise indeed! =A0LOL
>
> >I'd like to see the two grouches go at it.
> >They could fight over whose crusade is the most noble.
>
> =A0 =A0 Anything to distract from your life of abusing those you see as
> weaker than yourself, right?
>
> Information about inmate 1104135, Gregory Scott Hanson, wife and child
> abuser:
>
> Proof that inmate 1104135, Gregory Scott Hanson doesn't think he's
> bound by criminal or civil law:
>
> Case ID Title Name DOB Role
> 06571 =A0AGCR015216 STATE OF IOWA VS HANSON, GREG SCOTT HANSON GREGORY
> 05/22/1959 DEFENDANT
> 06571 =A0SCSC123709 FARM BUREAU MUTUAL INS CO VS GREGORY SCOTT HANSON
> HANSON GREGORY 05/22/1959 DEFENDANT
> 06571 =A0SCSC139229 EAGLE PROP MGT VS GREGORY HANSON & LISA WATKINS
> HANSON GREGORY 05/22/1959 DEFENDANT
> 06571 =A0SCSC139230 EAGLE PROP MGT VS GREGORY HANSON & LISA WATKINS
> HANSON GREGORY 05/22/1959 DEFENDANT
> 06571 =A0SCSC141447 EAGLE PROPERTY MNGT VS LISA WATKINS ET AL HANSON
> GREGORY 05/22/1959 DEFENDANT
> 06571 =A0SCSC141448 EAGLE PROPERTY MNGT VS LISA WATKINS ET AL HANSON
> GREGORY 05/22/1959 DEFENDANT
> 06571 =A0SMSM004543 STATE OF IOWA VS HANSON, GREG SCOTT HANSON GREGORY
> 05/22/1959 DEFENDANT
> 06571 =A0SMSM008629 STATE OF IOWA VS HANSON, GREGORY S HANSON GREGORY
> 05/22/1959 DEFENDANT
> 06571 =A0STCR429489 STATE OF IOWA vs HANSON, GREGORY SCOTT HANSON
> GREGORY 05/22/1959 DEFENDANT
> 06571 =A0STCR441449 STATE OF IOWA vs HANSON, GREGORY SCOTT HANSON
> GREGORY 05/22/1959 DEFENDANT
> 06571CRSTCR146191 CITY OF CEDAR RAPIDS vs HANSON, GREGORY SCOTT HANSON
> GREGORY 05/22/1959 DEFENDANT
> 06571CRSTCR214087 CITY OF CEDAR RAPIDS vs HANSON, GREGORY SCOTT HANSON
> GREGORY 05/22/1959 DEFENDANT
> 06571MASTWG261061 CITY OF MARION vs HANSON, GREGORY SCOTT HANSON
> GREGORY 05/22/1959 DEFENDANT
>
> =A0 =A0The rant inmate 1104135, Gregory Scott Hanson authored for Lisa
> about how unfair it was for DHS to remove Lisa's daughter from Greg's
> continued abuse:
>
> =A0IN THE IOWA DISTRICT COURT OF LINN COUNTY
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 JUVENILE
DIVI=
SION
> IN THE INTEREST OF =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0NO.
JVJV-12=
345
> CHILD A. LASTNAME
> DOB: 00-00-99 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 MOTION
=
TO CLARIFY
> MINOR CHILD =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0
MOTIO=
N FOR RELIEF FROM
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0
=
=A0 =A0 INAPPROPRIATE SERVICES
> COMES NOW, =A0Suzy Q. Mother, Pro Se, seeking relief from inappropriate
> and inquisitive services.
> The Iowa Department of Human Services (DHS) has IMPOSED a Service
> Plan
> onto us rather than allowing us ACTIVE participation in the FORMATION
> of the Service Plan. =A0We have complained about this for MOST of the
> last 11 months, and have been laughed off by Judas of DHS, Deb of LSS
> and ignored by Juvenile Court. =A0 Greg showed the quote from the US
> DHHS Caseworker handbook to Deb, outside of our house, using the
> trunk
> of the car as a work surface. =A0 We have seen no sign that she passed
> this information to Judas. =A0 Deb characterized this in writing as if
> it was aberrant behavior and avoidance of personal issues. =A0Judas has
> been informed of this by way of SEVERAL do***ents, yet shown no sign
> of truly understanding their significance. =A0The Iowa DHS computer
> blank FORM was apparently recently modified to make a clear statement
> about this point, with boxed in text for emphasis, so it must be
> im****tant to SOMEBODY at DHS, perhaps due to a consent decree.
> On January 99th, in court, I (Suzy Q. Mother) was asked by the judge
> what MORE services would help, but got the "stone wall" treatment
> regarding removal of inappropriate services. =A0It clearly seemed to be
> a "closed issue" with the Judge. =A0Something is wrong with that.
=A0This
> flies in the face of the concept of "Active Participation in the
> Formation of Service Plan". =A0Federal Case law says "op****tunity
> to object after formation is NOT a substitute for ACTIVE
> participation
> in the FORMATION of the Service Plan". =A0This is a Federal
> regulation and it's in the Iowa caseworker manual too.
> Services DHS is attempting to IMPOSE upon our family turned out upon
> further investigation to be contaminated beyond belief with putrid
> INPUT. =A0The words "fi****ng expedition" come to mind.
> Domestic Violence Victim Counseling
> Never mind that there has been no Domestic Violence in the 3 years
> that Greg has been with us.
 




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Re: Ivan Grouch is a package deal
LK <Patism66@[EMAIL PR  2008-08-14 20:20:41 

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