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> > On Oct 2, 6:55 pm, MightyJo...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > I believe to execute a proper crunch, one has to have their arms
> > > crossed, with their hands resting on their biceps, and their elbows
> > > must touch their bent legs. (I'd have to look it up to give you the
> > > actual standards.)
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> > Hmm! Is that how you perform yours? I've always thought -- from
> > reading it somewhere -- that the shoulder blades are supposed to be
> > just barely off the ground, at their end (lower) tip...any higher and
> > "sit-up muscles" come into play...any lower and it's too easy...I like
> > to keep my hands by my ears (not behind my neck, note) because it's
> > harder to do crunches that way than with arms folded across the
> > chest...wonder how Marines and airmen do them, then....
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> > > No, I believe it's 9 weeks, like the Army (unless you sign up for
> > > Combat Arms, then it's 12-14 weeks - the Army that is).
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> > Eh?? Ain't the Army eight weeks, still? I was in infantry OSUT,
> > though, and it was, what, twelve weeks...or was that fourteen??
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> Nope, Army is 9 weeks for "generic" basic training (Ft. Jackson, Ft.
> Leonard Wood, etc.) and Combat Arms still do OSUT. Not sure if
> Infantry is 12 or 14 weeks, but my son went through Armor OSUT at Ft.
> Knox and it was 14 weeks.
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> >The only thing hard about BCT was that it was so annoying. Physical
> > hard****p I didn't mind, but it was just aggravating, really got on
> > your nerves. That's the one thing I really remember: was so annoying!
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> While I didn't think it was "easy," it wasn't as tough as I thought it
> was going to be. A lot of the Mickey Mouse **** got on my nerves, but
> all in all, it was a good experience. The one thing I remember was
> being tired *all* the time. They woke us up at 0400 and ran us ragged
> until 2200, then there was an hour of fire guard some nights. I spent
> the whole 8 weeks feeling like I never got enough sleep.
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> > > As I said earlier, the Air Force is actually overstrength in some
> > > specialties. For those guys it was probably transfer over to the
Army,
> > > in-grade, or risk being put out of the Air Force altogether.
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> > Well, could the USAF have been overstrength in Forward Air
> > Controllers?? I mean, all those airmen just suddenly realized that
> > they'd rather be out in the woods slummin' it???
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> > You're likely right about career prospects, though -- I know for that
> > Marine it was definitely a career move. Wasn't going to get promoted
> > in the Marines (don't know what his MOS was there, but heck, yeah,
> > always room in the infantry!).
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> > > The Air Force guys probably think "who the hell would sign up for
the
> > > Army?" But seriously, some do it to fly, some do it to learn a trade
> > > (for learning a trade that you can actually use on the outside, the
> > > Air Force or the Navy is the best in that regard),
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> > Ah, right, I'd forgotten about that. Trades.
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> > > some because they
> > > want to serve, but don't think they could make it in the Army or
> > > Marines, some come from Air Force families and grew up on Air Force
> > > bases.
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> > Well, we know most Army enlistees join for the Army College Fund
> > (aside from patriotism and all that, of course, of course), but the
> > Air Force...just weird. Except for trades...but even then, unless you
> > absolutely must fix jet engines, you could get avionics in the Army,
> > too -- and with the Army College Fund as well as cash bonuses these
> > days, in all likelihood....
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> Don't know about the other services, but the Army will guarantee you a
> school. But, they don't guarantee you'll be working in the job you
> were trained for. I saw qualified helicopter mechanics working in the
> supply room, SIGINT specialists with foreign languages and Top Secret
> clearances working in the mailroom, ADP (computer) specialists driving
> trucks, etc. The Army guarantees you training, but they put you to
> work where they think they need you.
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> > > That's what my son said (he joined the Army as an M1A2 Abrams Tank
> > > Crewman). He said something along the lines of "why join the service
> > > to learn how to fix airplanes or sit behind a desk? I could stay
right
> > > here and go to Community College for that."
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> > Yeah, see?? So I really don't get those guys who sign up for that
> > stuff....
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> > I could've been in a tank. But being only 21, I thought tanks were
> > big sitting ducks...so I opted for the infantry. Sure enough, after
> > Basic they sent me to IV ID country -- mechanized infantry! So I rode
> > the Bradley, a real sitting duck if ever there was one, LOL....
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> My son was 18 when he signed up, and wanted to be a Cavalry Scout (the
> Army's equivalent of Recon). They had no slots, so he took Tanks
> instead. If he's going to be in the ****, I'd rather have him riding
> around in a tank then running out in front of them.
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> > > One thing I can say for the Air Force though, they had the best gyms
> > > (they called them "fitness centers" - that's so Air Force). And at
one
> > > of the bases where I was stationed, the gym was open 24/7. They also
> > > had the best chow halls.
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> > Ah, the life...nowadays I basically tell kids to join the Air Force if
> > they must join a service (some really just don't like school, college,
> > for some reason). I don't know anything about the Air Force, really,
> > but I know that much, that it's nicer living there.
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> > > I did think all those different colored ball caps looked kind of
silly
> > > with BDUs. Just my opinion.
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> > Really?? LOL. I do think their honor guards look silly, like the
> > kind you see in a banana republic.
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> Ever see our band uniforms?
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