"Steve Carroll" <trollkiller@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
news:trollkiller-8B6F39.08392104082008@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> In article <C4BC15D8.CD85D%usenet@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
> Snit <usenet@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> (snip Snit's crap)
>
> A poster wrote:
>
>>> You told us that OSX helps them in figuring out how to work with
>>> files
>>> And later they can more easily taught the "more advanced" stuff
>>> like "folders"
>>
>> Nope. I never said that. If you think differently then quote where
>> I said such about my students.
>
> "The fact is that there are people - a lot of people - who struggle
> with the abstract concept of files and folders presented with
> computers. People often, for example, "see" their files as being "in"
> their programs. Apple has built a successful paradigm ****ft with much
> of their software: they let the user work with their files and
> organize it from within the software - thus letting users work how
> users think - working with music (for example) in their music
> software". - Snit <C3C69EAD.A5414%CSMA@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Struggle with files and folders! Now I have heard it all. Has Snit never
heard of a filing cabinet?
> My prediction is that Snit will, at the least, do one or more of the
> following:
>
> 1 - Claim (dishonestly, of course) that, of the "lot of people" he
> was referring to in the quote above, *none* of them were ever
> "students" of his (he actually expects others to believe that "a lot
> of people" are just people that come up to him on the street and tell
> him what he's claiming in his quote here).
>
> 2 - Attempt to redefine simple words used in the quote (words like
> "lot", "struggle", "see", "in", "think", etc. are prime candidates
> for this).
>
> 3 - Bring in the concept of context... as if there was some 'special'
> context (that only he knows about) whereby his words don't mean what
> they obviously mean.
>
> In response to the above quote of Snit's, the poster Thufir correctly
> noted:
>
> "Your argument for the mac would seem to rest on a novices inability
> to navigate a file/directory interface".
>
> To which Snit replied:
>
> "What? This is a *Linux* forum and I have no goal of converting
> anyone to OS
> X in this forum. Why would I? What is your obsession with the Mac?"
>
> (note how Snit tries to turn the tables... a common trolling
> technique he uses).
>
> What Snit is doing here is extremely clear, as these quotes prove to
> anyone that can comprehend what they read. That Snit thinks he's
> fooling anyone is bizarre. Alternatively, if Snit is not trying to
> fool anyone, then his only other option is that he doesn't comprehend
> what he reads or writes. There is no other choice.
>
>>> In short: Your students are not quite as smart as a demented stump.
>>> They have problems working with files, and even more with folders.
>>>
>>> How can anyone expect them to navigate such frightening monsters
>>> like "desktops" then?
>>
>> So you can spew fabrications about me and my views. OK, that puts
>> you, Rick, and Thufir in the same boat.
>
> Wrote Snit as he prepares to disingenuously deny proof from google
> that he has stated what others have claimed.
>
> Note that, given his denial, Snit's position here is:
>
> None of his students have ever 'struggled' "with the abstract concept
> of files and folders presented with computers"... None of his
> students "see" their files as being "in" their programs. Watch for
> Snit to attempt to have it both ways, he often likes claiming
> everything on every side of an issue so he can't be "wrong".
>
> (snip more of Snit's crap)
Snit is insane. As you have proved he is a nut job who is afraid of his
own
shadow.


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