On Jun 27, 8:50=A0am, Mark Probert <mark.prob...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> On Jun 27, 6:37=A0am, CitizenJimserac<Jimse...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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> > On Jun 26, 11:04=A0pm, "Jan Drew" <jdrew1...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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> > > "Myrl" <wisgroup_lea...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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> > > On Jun 25, 9:20 pm, CitizenJimserac<Jimse...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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> > > > Do you have any idea WHAT PERCENT of those
> > > > that DO NOT take the vaccines, actually get
> > > > the illnesses that the vaccines are supposed to
> > > > be protecting us all against?
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> > > > For example, measles.
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> > > > What per cent of the non-vaccinated children
> > > > get it and of that SMALL percentage, how
> > > > many need to be hospitalized?
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> > > > CitizenJimserac
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> > > Try these facts on for size. =A0They are from a more detailed
article
> > > at:
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> > >http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5708a3.htm
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> > > CDC - gov
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> > > *Organized medicine*.
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> > > Poor Myrl Jeffcoat.
> > > Mostly likely to be followed by another troll meter.
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> > Now THAT link from CDC IS interesting because it states:
> > Once ubiquitous, measles now is uncommon in the United States. In the
> > prevaccine era, 3 to 4 million measles cases occurred every year,
> > resulting in approximately 450 deaths, 28,000 hospitalizations, and
> > 1,000 children with chronic disabilities from measles encephalitis.
> > Because of successful implementation of measles vaccination programs,
> > fewer than 100 measles cases are now re****ted annually in the United
> > States and virtually all of those are linked to im****ted cases (2,3),
> > reflecting the incidence of measles globally and travel patterns of
> > U.S. residents and visitors. During 2006--2007, im****tations were most
> > common from India, Japan, and countries in Europe, where measles
> > transmission remains endemic and large outbreaks have occurred in
> > recent years (CDC, unpublished data, 2008). Since November 2006,
> > Switzerland has experienced that country's largest measles outbreak
> > since introduction of mandatory notification for measles in 1999 (1).
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> > One has to wonder, if measles is endemic in Japan and India and a
> > large outbreak
> > has occured in Switzerland, are those countries not doing the vaccines
> > OR are they =A0using the vaccines and they are not working?
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> > Did the measles vaccine EVER work?
>
> > That is the question.
>
> Clearly, from the quote you posted, the measles vaccine worked quite
> well in the USA.
>
> As for Japan, India and Switzerland, please do your own homework. Even
> a casual perusal of some of the articles that a simple Google search
> will find shows that even Switzerland does not have a very high degree
> of uptake of the measles vaccine. High uptake sup****ts herd immunity,
> and those three countries do not have it.
Thank you - you've actually posted a counter argument,
made some factual statements and did it WITHOUT
insulting me. Now THAT is refre****ng!!
And now for the rejoinder -> WHY... one wonders,
would a wealthy country like Switzerland, or an ever wealthier
one like Japan, NOT have sufficient vaccine programs?
Hmmmm
Citizen Jimserac
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