Re: => 17 Catholic High School ****s in Pregnancy Pact <= Christian Family Values !

In article <k3sc64p0s5609er3sb9pt10bdo77pv7rdi@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Kent Wills <compuelf@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

> On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 10:28:29 -0400, Larry <x@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> 
> >In article <pb6c645efcmkn6jkd1cntcmv55ib2nua9d@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > Kent Wills <compuelf@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >
> >> On 28 Jun 2008 03:26:42 -0400, tjab@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (tjab) wrote:
> >> 
> >> [...]
> >> 
> >> >>> What inescapable truth is that?
> >> >>
> >> >>That "white trash" is a racist insult, and Jonez used it that way
> >> >
> >> >I "admit" nothing of the sort.
> >> >
> >> >Here's a racist insult: Grover Norquist calling Obama "John Kerry
> >> >with a tan." 
> >> 
> >>     Certainly a bigoted comment.
> >
> >Actually, the more I think about it, I'm not so sure.  Would "John
Kerry 
> >with darker skin" be racist?  He's saying that the two have similar 
> >views, and the only difference is their skin color.
> >
> >Would calling Kerry "Barack Obama with lighter skin" be racist?
> >
> 
>     I think it would.

Would saying that Obama is a "shorter John Kerry" be a height-based 
insult?

At some point, it's just a comparison, not an insult or racism.

> >> >Here's another: Fox News putting the caption "Obama's
> >> >Baby Mama" under Michelle Obama.
> >> >
> >> >Got anything to say about that, Larry? Kent? Moe?
> >> 
> >>     Michelle is younger than Barack, but to call her his Baby Mama is
> >> odd.  I don't see the racism in it.
> >
> >Well, "baby mama" is a colloquial term used in urban areas to identify 
> >someone who is the mother of a guy's child, but isn't his wife or 
> >girlfriend.  So while it is technically correct that she is the mother 
> >of his children, the implication would be that they just hooked up a
few 
> >times and aren't married, which is just wrong.  
> 
>      They've been married for a long time, so yes, it's certainly
> wrong.
> 
> >The comment is mostly 
> >used in reference to (and by) African Americans, which is why I think 
> >tjab thinks it is racist.
> 
>     I don't see it.  Perhaps tjab will explain it.