"Herman Rubin" <hrubin@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
news:g5fqts$9394@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> In article <gpik741k3jilkcgk64o9klmm9hmkirt5jo@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
> Bob LeChevalier <lojbab@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>hrubin@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Herman Rubin) wrote:
>>>In article <l7ak74pmuogf13ieglu6v1gksmvb92lrgc@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
>>>Bob LeChevalier <lojbab@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>hrubin@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Herman Rubin) wrote:
>
> ..............
>
>>>>Memorization and routine lead to automatization, which is required on
>>>>a timed test.
>
>>>You continue to stress the trivia. You seem unable to tell
>>>the difference between education and training; memorization
>>>and routine is training.
>
>>And "We the people" want the animals (children) to be trained into
>>useful and self-sup****ting members of society. I suspect that this is
>>far more im****tant to most people than any idealized concept of
>>"education", which is why the system has evolved in the direction that
>>it has.
>
> And this is why we need to im****t graduate students in the
> sciences, and people to teach college and graduate science,
> to do non-trivial programming, etc. Sure, we can turn out
> clerks, assembly line workers, and the like, but not those
> who can use their brains and innovate.
>
We do not im****t workers becaue US citizens cannot perform the work, we
im****t workers because they are willing to work for far less than the
prevailing wages.
According to the US BLS the unemploymern rate for college graduates is
currently about 60% higher than it was in the last decade of the last
century.
They also re****t that the number of college graduates working outside of
their major is more than twice what it was in that period.
IOW, there are thousands of US citizens with degrees in math, engineering,
chemistry, computer science, and other technical fields not working in
those
fields beccuse of a shortage of jobs _or_ depressed salary levels mking
non-tecnical (esp finance) jbs more attractive.
Larry
> The US has consistently led the world in CS, but it has not
> produced many Americans in that; that many of the im****ts
> have become Americans is to the good.
>
> When "we the people" attempt to decide things involving the
> nature of the universe, only bad things can result. In the
> 19th century, there was curriculum, and while understanding
> has never been directly taught, some was introduced. "We
> the people" did not interfere when Johnny had to repeat a
> grade, and did not ask a teacher to lower the level of a
> course to accommodate the weak students. Nor did they object
> when Jane was skipped a grade, unless they though Joe was
> smarter, and usually not even then.
>
> --
> This address is for information only. I do not claim that these views
> are those of the Statistics Department or of Purdue University.
> Herman Rubin, Department of Statistics, Purdue University
> hrubin@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Phone: (765)494-6054 FAX: (765)494-0558
|
