On Jul 21, 12:26 pm, Chris <chrissype...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On Jul 21, 12:14=EF=BF=BDpm, cjra <cjroh...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > On Jul 21, 10:26 am, Chris <chrissype...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > That's sort of the point....so many things can happen. I don't even
> > > know at what age my grandmother started going downhill, but first it
> > > was her knees going, so she avoided walking-style outings, then she
> > > had some heart issues, then she wound up on dialysis, and from there
> > > random debilitating-to-her-in-her-condition illnesses occasionally
> > > popped up until she finally died as a result of a bout of pneumonia.
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> > > I would stop by on my lunch hour, snag her up, watch her struggle to
> > > get into my s****ts car, which would crack us both up, and take her
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> > > to eat. She loved to get out of the house - hated feeling like she
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> > > stuck in it and hated that she had become dependent on my
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> > > She NEVER complained, always had a smile on her face, etc. She would
> > > have rather died than to complain to you. So my whole thought was
> > > about where any given grandma may be in 5 to 10 years.
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> > > Either someone possesses the ability to look at potential situations
> > > objectively, or they do not. You can either be practical and just
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> > > that anything can happen at any given time - the question would be
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> > > to whether or not grandma or DIL could live with the "what if"
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> > > placing blame or carrying guilt - sounds to me like the DIL wouldn't
> > > be able to at this point in time, as unfortunate as that is, but in
> > > her defense she is probably only making what she perceives as a
> > > legitimate decision based on her own experiences. If you live on a
> > > lake, which my parents do, you'll have nightmares for eons about
your
> > > child drowning and slipping just out of your reach as you try to
save
> > > them to the point where you can't enjoy a boat ride with your 3 kids
> > > -- I think, "How on earth can I save all 3 should something bad
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> > > out here?" (but we go!)
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> > > I still get worried every time my children ride in a car with
friends
> > > to a birthday party outing with kids that live on our street or in
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> > > neighborhood and I still get worried about them riding with anyone
in
> > > our family - BECAUSE anything can happen at any time, but I do know
> > > that I would never blame the driver barring some serious issues such
> > > as drinking and driving, speeding excessively, driving wrecklessly,
> > > failing to belt the children in, etc. -- all things I know my family
> > > would not do, and I know the neighbors well enough that they would
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> > > either. There is always the possibility that they will be hit by
> > > another driver regardless of their conscientousness and ability -
> > > that's what I'm talking about. Heck, I can't even tell you how many
> > > times I've taken a moment to thank God that I wasn't in a particular
> > > area a few moments earlier as I have driven past mangled minivans
> > > where the passenger compartments (where my children would have been
> > > placed) were smashed in toward the middle of the car. Gives me
chills
> > > every time and I KNOW I am a conscientous driver.
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> > > And to Grandma, as baby enters into this first year and learns to
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> > > and become a pro at walking, etc., I hope mom lightens up a little
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> > > you are in fact a good driver - lol!).
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> > I don't know...I think I would have dealt better with someone driving
> > my infant than my now 2-yr old who can unbuckle her car seat but does
> > not quite understand the consequences. I *think* I've managed to
> > convince her never to do it again, but like not subjecting another
> > driver to a screaming child (she was not one to fall asleep in the
> > car), I don't want to subject another driver to that possibility
> > either.....
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> > When DD is 5, I'll feel a lot easier about it. Fortunately, she now
> > waits til we stop to unbuckle her seat belt, but I'm always holding my
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> LOL. You might be pleasantly surprised how a stern look from grandma,
> even those who usually takes joy in letting the child get his/her own
> way just to get even with you, and a "We/You do not unbuckle that belt
> in grandma's car." with a car stop can make your child NOT unbuckle
> that belt. lol.
Not a risk I'm willing to take. Not only for my daughter's safety, but
for the driver's conscience and potential arrest if caught before it
can be resolved.


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